21 users online Enter Chatroom General Discussion >> Question and Answers Previous Index Next Flat Threaded Pages: 1 | 2 | (show all) Nefarious 666? 06/16/03 01:24 AM Edit Reply ok....I ran across a website a few years ago that broke down the meaning of 666, i dont remember much of it i just skimmed thru it. I should have wrote it down but there was some literature on that number, something about 666 being the number of man and a life number or something like that.... it explained each 6 and why there were three of them and all that... the website had a black background with stars in it, i do remember that anyways if anyone knows what im talking about. It was definitely a satanic website, not xian...if anyone can help me out or know what website im talking about please let me know thank you Post Extras: Penemue Member Reged: 01/07/03 Posts: 239 Loc: Milwaukee Re: 666? [re: Nefarious] 06/16/03 02:16 AM Edit Reply Most explanations I've read of 666 have to do with Gematria. Of course, many of us know that Hebrew and Greek letters all have numeric values, and thus all words in those languages have a numeric value. The number 666 was probably used to encode a specific person's name so that the author of the Book of Revelation could openly criticize a public figure without fear of blatantly naming that person. Of all the explanations Caesar Nero is the most popular (and the most plausible, I think). Mr. Nero was a terrible persecutor of early Christians and book is generally purported to be written during his reign. Also, it is probable that the number has more general symbolic meanings. In the numerology prevailing at the time 6 was thought to be an imperfect number. I'm guessing this is because of its multiple divisors, but I'm not sure. In any case, the number has that symbolic meaning and its appearance three times is a symbol of its superlative function. Just as we have ever increasing qualifiers in the words "big" "bigger" and "biggest" so it is the case with 666 representing the superlative of that which is disgusting and terrible. Perhaps someone with a greater knowledge of Gematria and numerology can explain these symbolic meanings more properly. Fame is a vapor, popularity is accident; the only earthly certainty is oblivion. -Samuel Johnson Post Extras: num Member Reged: 11/06/02 Posts: 387 Loc: Salt Lake City Post deleted by Samael [re: Nefarious] 06/19/03 06:57 AM Edit Reply Blackened Infernally, ~ ~ ~ Hecate Mae Love ~ ~ ~ Post Extras: Dementia Re: 666? [re: num] 06/19/03 06:41 PM Edit Reply In Gematria, the alphabetical aquivalent of 6 is the letter Vav, which is often mistaken for having the same sound as W- a thing which I can't understand since the sound of W doesn't exist in Hebrew at all. The correct sound is equivalent to V. However- the combination of these three letters is completely meaningless aside from their Gematric value. Post Extras: IXº 999 [re: Nefarious] 06/22/03 01:27 PM Edit Reply Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. Keep in mind that in verse 17, there are three different characteristics that identifies the beast: His mark (of authority) His name The number of his name (666). It might be debated by some that 666 must be correlated to one man's name, and that this will then help identify him as the antichrist. I offer the following verse to show that six six six need not apply exclusively to a man's name: Rev 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lords Of Lords. The same word translated in Greek as a name "onoma: G3686" that appears in Revelation 13:17&18 is also used in chapter 19:16, so without question the word can also apply to a title, and not just one man's name. Simply put: 666 can apply to a title and not to just one thing. It works just like the title "Antichrist" ... Anyone who is against Christ, is an antichrist. It is not singular to one specific person or thing. Some believe that 666 could actually be 999 and someone back in the biblical days somehow saw 999 inverted and took it as 666. Your banking system number, which is found at the far left of your personal checks, has nine digits. This is not to be confused with your account number, which is farther to the right. This 9-digit number is the universal banking system number and transactions will not work without it. It is both a Federal and a global system. The second "9" is your Social Security Number, which is always 9 digits. The third "9", is your new zip code. For many years, the zip code in the United States was 5 digits. To make the system complete, it had to be changed to a 9 digit number. Hince The four digit suffix... I don't buy it... Personally I believe if you look hard enough at one thing, you will eventually see everything. IXº Post Extras: BH72 666 or 777?!? [re: Nefarious] 06/23/03 01:33 AM Edit Reply Hallo! I just wanted to add my two cents. Often, in the Hebrew Qabbalah, numbers use to have more than one meaning. Surely all the explanations I've read above sound realistic (expecially the one involving "Nerone" - that was his latin name). Someone said that you can "track down" the number 666 from almost every name in the world. That's not true. According to the rules of Qabbalah, there is only one way to "reckon the number of the beast", and it is summing the single cabalistic value of every single GREEK letter of a name, and the resulting value should be 666. I sais greek leatters (and not hebrew, as it should be), because the Revelations were written in greek. But there's another interesting point of view, based on the fact that - always for the rules of Qabbalah - not only every single letter has a numeric value, but also every number has a philosophic value. A well known example is written right in revelations, when it's said that 12'000 from everyone of the 12 tribes of israel will be saved and brought to the new Jerusalem. Well, for the Qabbalah, "12" is the number for "a lot of"; and that's because the tribes itselves were 12: a whole lot of people. Saying 12'000 times 12 was like saying - uhm - a "whole damn lot of" people saved. Someone - like Jehovah's Witnesses - read it literally, believing that at the end of the times only the best 144'000 human beings will be saved. But all the Qabbalah experts rely on the "a whole damn BIIIG bunch of" people solution. With that premise, we have to notice that in the Qabbalah the number meaning "perfection" is "7" (7 are the Virtues, 7 are the Deadly Sins, etc. ...Strangely, 10 are the Commandments!). So, when a person was really "closer to god" (NIN anyone?) it was indicated by a cabalistic 7. The number of GOD, in his superlative perfection, was 777. It happens that - as some of you have already stated - 6 was the number for "imperfection", "error", "insufficience" (it's close to 7, but it's not "right 7"). Therefore 6 was the number for everything that "tried to resemble perfection, but in a corrupted and incomplete way". Whit this is mind, "666" could be seen like "someone far MORE than human, trying to mock GOD himself (777) but not succeding in the task". In substance: an ape of god (as often the antichrist has been called). Just a little excursion in numerology: 777 = The perfection of divinity 7+7+7=21 2+1=3 3 = a cabalistic forevision of the christian trinity? 666 6+6+6=18 1+8=9 9 = ...and you all know what that means, right? See ya! Post Extras: FluffyDevilBunny Member Reged: 01/03/03 Posts: 58 Loc: Arlington Re: 666 or 777?!? [re: BH72] 06/24/03 11:17 PM Edit Reply In reply to: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just a little excursion in numerology: 777 = The perfection of divinity 7+7+7=21 2+1=3 3 = a cabalistic forevision of the christian trinity? 666 6+6+6=18 1+8=9 9 = ...and you all know what that means, right? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It takes 3 christians to equal one satanist? Post Extras: BH72 Re: 666 or 777?!? [re: FluffyDevilBunny] 06/25/03 12:58 AM Edit Reply In reply to: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It takes 3 christians to equal one satanist? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yeah! Kinda like that! ... Or maybe it's like 3 christians are as good as 9 satanists? Or... how many satanists do we need to change a light bulb? ...i'm cOnFUseD... Post Extras: lavithon Re: 666? [re: Nefarious] 07/25/03 11:04 PM Edit Reply I heard the 666 was a number that was seen in the nightmare or some highly positioned christian. I've also hear that 666 had something to do with sex being spelled backwards roman nurmerals but i never really looked up how 666 became a big number. You are your own God! Post Extras: Exalted_Arshlock Re: 666? [re: Nefarious] 08/04/03 08:04 PM Edit Reply Heres my take on it-I think the true meaning of 666 is this. It's just another number or symbol made up by some long dead musty skeletons that made and believed in gods, goddesses, devils and fairy tale animals. ect. and some Satanists read things into it because they think they are supposed to. Post Extras: coin Re: 666 or 777?!? [re: BH72] 08/19/03 06:12 PM Edit Reply Nice run down. I once heard of the possibility that it was supposed to be 6x6x6 though, or 6^3. This gives the value 216, which I've stumbled across surprisingly often. The only occurence I can remember now though is the gematrical value of the enochian word for God. But also. 2+1+6 = 9. Need I say more? Post Extras: Mammon Re: 666? [re: Nefarious] 09/29/03 09:34 PM Edit Reply I'm not sure what 666 is supposed to represent. But 667 is definitely the neighbour of the beast. Christianity is filled with as much gobbledegook as numerology, so I wouldn't put too much faith in either one. But by all accounts of what you said about the site you found this information on, it does sound Satanic. After all, if no one understands it, redefine it, and claim it as your own. As for delving into the ancient secrets of xtianity and crapology, it is a good mental exercise for the reality impaired. If you really want information that is useful, I will impart my wisdom unto you, that you may use it to your utmost advantage. Check out the popes hat. It's a fish head. It is Tiamat in silk sun shade white, baby. Feel free to wind a whimsical tale about this little item, and maybe create your own web page. Surely there is money to be had in fish hats. Post Extras: Co_Attican Re: 666? [re: Nefarious] 10/01/03 11:44 PM Edit Reply Many people today say that by 666 meant Nero Caesar of the Roman Empire. We must bear in mind that in Latin original it was NERON, and not like in English spelling NERO. Secondly, his title was not pronounced as it is pronounced in today's English, Caesar, but differently. At that time the province where Jesus was nailed to a tree, was called Caesarea, but at that time Jews pronounced it " KEYSAREA" and Caesar was "KEYSAR". This spelling was also found among Dead Sea scrolls. Also, Hebrew doesn't have letter "O", but uses letter "V" instead, plus Hebrew script doesn't put vocals in the words. One supplies them as he/she reads. So we have NRVN KSR. Now in Hebrew caligraphs each letter also had a numeric value... All right, math time kiddies! Nun = 50 Resh = 200 Vav = 6 Nun = 50 50 + 200 + 6 + 50 = 306 Kof = 100 Samekh = 60 Resh = 200 100 + 60 + 200 = 360 306 + 360 = 666 Many historians think this is what meant because, well lets face it, Caesar was a vigorous persecutor of xians and they all hated him for it. Whether or not this is really whom they meant by the Antichrist will most likely always be up for debate. Post Extras: Detrevni (Another numerology explanation in short.) [re: coin] 11/17/03 08:56 PM Edit Reply By Rev. Frederick Nagash The Church of Lucifer has a very unique numerologic system, including our representation of the number of the beast. Numbers have always had a strong part in everything and every culture, why even the Christians have used numbers in certain circumstances such as the number they use to represent the beast the six tripled. Numbers have been used for everything from the Zodiac to birthdate analysis, and are still used in todays society. This will give you an insight into the system in a brief description of each used number combination. The number of the beast has been changed numerous times in the past and even the Church of Lucifer has recently evolved the number. The number of the beast in Christianity has always been a tripled six, then Anton LaVey the founding father of the Church of Satan proclaimed the number of the beast to be nine as nine is the number of the ego, any number nine is multiplied into it returns to itself (Example 9x2=18 1+8=9). The Church of Lucifer uses the tripled three to represent the number of the beast as three tripled equals nine (Example 3x3=9), and ad the first two three's together to get six then the other three is used to represent the six tripled, another number that is used to represent the number of the beast is eighteen as six times three equals eighteen (Example 6x3=18), and 8+1=9, and also the number twenty seven as nine times three equals twenty seven (Example 9x3=27), 2+7=9. Aliester Crowley was largely involved in numerology and devised a very intricate system, in my opinion he was the father of numerology even if our philosophical views are very different. The thing to remember when using numerology is to realize there are thousands of systems, we at the Church of Lucifer do not claim ours to be the definitive system but you must admit it makes perfect sense and is clear and to the point !!!!!!!! Post Extras: Legion Probation Reged: 10/18/03 Posts: 16 Loc: . Re: 666? [re: Nefarious] 11/25/03 08:39 AM Edit Reply 666 is the number value in linux for the permission of file owner group and others in this case 666 would = -rw-rw-rw- which means the owner of the file could read and write to the file as can the group owner and other owners. generally this type of file permission is used on an ftp server in which you want anyone to be able to read and write.....(depending on what the ftp is used for....generally the command is chmod 666 Post Extras: Drachir Probation Reged: 07/31/04 Posts: 1 Loc: London Re: 666? [re: Legion] 10/01/04 08:34 AM Edit Reply I seem to remember reading that the early translations made several mistakes.The meaning of a word can change depending on its context and the words that surround it. The number was 616 and not 666.The other thing was that in the context it was set it could either have meant that number or could have been a generalization for "a really big number" "let he who hath understanding count the number of the beast" I either read this in "the dictionary of curious and interesting numbers" or I made it up...(god told me?) Post Extras: MyndPhuk Probation Reged: 10/29/04 Posts: 13 Loc: St. Joseph Re: 666? [re: Nefarious] 12/24/04 01:16 AM Edit Reply This is one of the best reads on the internet I've had in a while. The whole Numerology thing was cool and so was the Greek/Hebrew/Latin/Roman corrolations. I have 666 tattooed on my chest so I can keep Satan close to me at all times, or to keep Satan close to my heart. I have it tattoed for obvious religious implications and because of sentimental symbolic reasons but none the less I'm easily fascinated by symbolism. The Romans worshipped the Snake of Eden as a symbol of intellectual immancipation not as a Serpent of impending doom hence the name calling and the symbolic cry baby bull-shit. I mean the Christians ripped off the Ankh for f***s sake and turned it into a symbol of their suffering. They worship suffering and they also advocate culture mutilation. 666 I've heard was translated into hebrew and then analyzed and it was closer to something like 616 or something like that. The whole thing is almost confusing but the end will tell. Through the ashes my fallen army will rise and punish the blind. We are not cast aways, but future leaders in the Infernal Empire. Each 6 on my chest I've earned in some bizzare way. Anyways, Shemhamforash and all that good stuff. Hail Satan! Post Extras: Pages: 1 | 2 | (show all) Previous Index Next Flat Threaded Extra information 0 registered and 3 anonymous users are browsing this forum. Moderator: xear Print Thread Permissions You cannot start new topics You cannot reply to topics HTML is disabled UBBCode is enabled Rating: Thread views: 2134 Rate this thread 1 star 2 star 3 star 4 star 5 star Jump to *General Discussion* ----- Rules & Regulations Announcements NewsLinks Satanism 101 Casual Conversation Question and Answers Satanic Philosophy Creative Arts Practical Solutions and Advice Contact Us Discussion Forum | Satanism Info | First Satanic Church Generated in 0.609 seconds in which 0.013 seconds were spent on a total of 17 queries. Zlib compression disabled. Forum, Literature, Members & Websites 23 users online Enter Chatroom General Discussion >> Question and Answers Previous Index Next Flat Threaded Pages: 1 | 2 | (show all) Drachir Probation Reged: 07/31/04 Posts: 1 Loc: London Re: 666? [re: Legion] 10/01/04 08:34 AM Edit Reply I seem to remember reading that the early translations made several mistakes.The meaning of a word can change depending on its context and the words that surround it. The number was 616 and not 666.The other thing was that in the context it was set it could either have meant that number or could have been a generalization for "a really big number" "let he who hath understanding count the number of the beast" I either read this in "the dictionary of curious and interesting numbers" or I made it up...(god told me?) Post Extras: MyndPhuk Probation Reged: 10/29/04 Posts: 13 Loc: St. Joseph Re: 666? [re: Nefarious] 12/24/04 01:16 AM Edit Reply This is one of the best reads on the internet I've had in a while. The whole Numerology thing was cool and so was the Greek/Hebrew/Latin/Roman corrolations. I have 666 tattooed on my chest so I can keep Satan close to me at all times, or to keep Satan close to my heart. I have it tattoed for obvious religious implications and because of sentimental symbolic reasons but none the less I'm easily fascinated by symbolism. The Romans worshipped the Snake of Eden as a symbol of intellectual immancipation not as a Serpent of impending doom hence the name calling and the symbolic cry baby bull-shit. I mean the Christians ripped off the Ankh for f***s sake and turned it into a symbol of their suffering. They worship suffering and they also advocate culture mutilation. 666 I've heard was translated into hebrew and then analyzed and it was closer to something like 616 or something like that. The whole thing is almost confusing but the end will tell. Through the ashes my fallen army will rise and punish the blind. We are not cast aways, but future leaders in the Infernal Empire. Each 6 on my chest I've earned in some bizzare way. Anyways, Shemhamforash and all that good stuff. Hail Satan! 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